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This is very disturbing. Does this mean that all Schneider patients are under scrutiny as they try to find treatment, or are they targeting PRN members in retaliation?  Were there any other similar reports of harrassment?

Tami wrote:

Alex wrote:

So I guess I’m glad Former US Attorney Rathbun has denounced such aggressive drug war police tactics as applies to law-abiding chronic pain patients, and, presumably, their law-abiding physicians

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Alex, former U.S. Attorney Rathbun, did not denounce it. He denied it. He said, "I don't believe it, I doubt thats happening, perhaps it's the law enforcement bias on my part, and this is simply inappropriate." He was referring to the strong arm of the law, and that this behavior, could not and would not happen. Typical.

Defense Attorney Lawrence Williamson denounced it.

Thanks for the update.

Tami

You are absolutely correct, Tami; I stand corrected.

Amazing things happen when you kick the tires of the Drug War juggernaut, huh?

Maybe I should just stop asking questions... doesn't matter, does it?

yes that is her talking with that guy...i meant to put that in my first post on thsi ...hope:R

Alex wrote:

Amazing things happen when you kick the tires of the Drug War juggernaut, huh

No kidding Alex. I'll take a kick to the tire and it feels good.

Tami

I'm just to p--- off to comment right now!
Skarn, I don't remember that doctor. What do you know about him? What kind of info are you looking for? Can i help?


What in the heck does he mean he doesn't believe that could happen? He works for the corrupted system, he has all the inside info, he know's exactly what the f%$# is going on!!!!!!!!!!

Last edited by DEANNA (2008-03-24 19:57:09)

Skarn Rapajya wrote:

::General Disclaimer::  I am NOT a medical professional.  However, I've grown up in a family where everybody either was born diabetic (like my grandmother, type 1), or else is born hypoglycemic and later turns diabetic (like me, officially type 2, in reality, borderline between 1 & 2).

Also, in a family of teachers, people tend to try and learn about their health problems and sometimes wind up knowing more about their condition than some doctors.  (Case & point being the indocrinologist who cut my mother's insulin dose in half and increased her food portions, then had no clue why her glucose levels were rising. - - DUH!)

It all rings true to me, Skarn.

monkeyboy wrote:

doesnt surprise me a whit---despots get pissy when you dare to question their power...scares the shit outta me, but doesnt surprise me-------"homegrown" terrorist, indeed...

Yes, although disturbing, doesn't suprise me but still makes me angry as heck that this is happening.  I guess you could say this is the post that put me over the edge.

So everyone, sorry for the little emotional outburst... it's been coming for some time now.  As of today, I'm in meltdown.    Yea, in the big scheme of things, I don't think that my voice matters but collectively our voices do matter.  Just wish that more people were listening.

Lori - Tom Waits - yes, very awesome.  Music is the only thing that gets me thru sometimes.  Today, more Green Day:

'She'

She screams in silence
A sullen riot penetrating through her mind
Waiting for a sign to smash the silence
With the brick of self control

Are you locked up in a world
Thats been planned out for you ?
Are you feeling like a social tool without use ?

Scream at me until my ears bleed
Im taking heed just for you

Shes figured out all her doubts
Were someone elses point of view
Waking up this time to smash the silence
With the brick of self control

does anyone know where or how to get your records ?? i was told me mine was sent to a dr. meyers in agusta ,and they said they sent them to that dr. landers ,well neither one has them, and it was well maybe i better not say who was getting them  hope

hope_6@cox.net wrote:

does anyone know where or how to get your records ?? i was told me mine was sent to a dr. meyers in agusta ,and they said they sent them to that dr. landers ,well neither one has them, and it was well maybe i better not say who was getting them  hope

HAVE YOU TRIEDTO CONTACT THE CLINIC. YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE YOUR OWN COPY OF THEM. SOME DR'S WONT TAKE THEM FROM THE PATIENT BUT YOU STILL SHOULD HAVE YOUR OWN COPY. I HAVE A CONTACT THAT IS VERY BUSY AND IT WAS A SMALL MIRICLE THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO FIND THE TIME TO GET THEM FOR ME? DO YOU KNOW HER OR HOW TO GET A HOLD OF HER? MAYBE I CAN CALL HER FOR YOU. EMAIL ME AND LET ME KNOW.

Last edited by DEANNA (2008-03-25 21:49:51)

Skarn Rapajya wrote:

DEANNA wrote:

Skarn, I don't remember that doctor. What do you know about him? What kind of info are you looking for? Can i help?

Actually, most of us who saw Dr. Richard Piazza have fond memories of him.  He lost his license to practice in KS when his malpractice insurance refused to renew a few years back.  His office was in downtown Derby, KS.

The only incident leading up to this that I know about was a case where a lady came in to his office in diabetic shock (very high blood glucose levels).  She and her husband were irate that all he did was give her a shot of insulin, and then monitor her glucose levels at regular intervals.  This is EXACTLY what he should have done, but they somehow wanted something more and filed a malpractice claim.

Now, to show just how much of his time they were monopolizing that day, I had a 10 AM appointment that day.  They arrived at about the same time I did, but because of their constantly demanding his time, etc., I didn't get to see him until about 5 PM.

It was normal for Dr. Piazza to be a bit behind schedule, in part because he was one of those osteopaths who always takes the time to educate their patients and answer all of their questions.  The problem here was when a single person tries to monopolize his time for something where A> the doctor was doing exactly what he should have, and B> diabetic shock belongs in immediate care or ER; it shouldn't be taken to the nearest private practice office for emergency treatment unless the patient is unconscious, and really not even then because small offices aren't normally equipped for it..

I've heard that he managed to get a license to practice down in FL, but no details.

::General Disclaimer::  I am NOT a medical professional.  However, I've grown up in a family where everybody either was born diabetic (like my grandmother, type 1), or else is born hypoglycemic and later turns diabetic (like me, officially type 2, in reality, borderline between 1 & 2).

Also, in a family of teachers, people tend to try and learn about their health problems and sometimes wind up knowing more about their condition than some doctors.  (Case & point being the indocrinologist who cut my mother's insulin dose in half and increased her food portions, then had no clue why her glucose levels were rising. - - DUH!)

My dad was diabetic from childhood and I grew up with his condition. I never once heard of my mom taking him to the dr's office for an emergency like that. If they were going to be such a pain in the neck the doc should have called an ambulance to take them and let them pay for that. He was probably trying to be kind and save them some $. That's one of the biggest problems w/ america. Everyone is sue happy and don't care who they step on in the process. A shot of insulin is the only way to bring the blood suger down. My dad was close to death several times for low blood suger, but never high. It's sad that we lose the good dr's that are so rare to idiots that seem to abound.

ps. My dad was really sick towards the end of his life and was in and out of hostpitals all the time, and it never failed that the nurses would always end up screwing up his blood suger. Finally his diabetic dr told them all to do exactly what my dad told them to do with his insulin and food. I got the biggest kick out of that.

Last edited by DEANNA (2008-03-25 21:26:22)

You two are funny. Lori, you kill me, I keep wondering who in the hell is Pam!! LOL!!

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DONT KNOW IF THIS HELPS OR NOT,CAME OFF THE KAKE.COM AND NOT SURE IF IT WAS POSTED ALONG WITH MY LAST ONE FROM THERE OR NOT,THANKS DOCALEX FOR FIXIN IT UP AND ADDING YOUR PERSONAL TOUCH , HOPE PS Hd to go back and take out theurl;s, agin ,like the last time,but it wouldnt let me put them back in, so just go to the kake.com and you can getall the scoop  hope someone gets some use out of it ,hope
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hope_6@cox.net wrote:

does anyone know where or how to get your records ?? i was told me mine was sent to a dr. meyers in agusta ,and they said they sent them to that dr. landers ,well neither one has them, and it was well maybe i better not say who was getting them  hope

I'm afraid I have no knowledge of where the seized medical records of Dr. Schneiders's patients are. Usually, once a doc is indicted, the records are "lost", for all intents and purposes, to the legal process... which basically means you can't get them, and they don't care.

Don't know what to suggest, Hope, except that you call the Attorney General's office - that would be Tanya Treadway, and SCREAM. BLOODY. MURDER.

Keep calling back and screaming till they get sick of hearing it... then maybe they, your paid government servants, will listen to you.

But I doubt it.

thanks for your help,i cant find any helo and thngs arnt good, hope:(